NeuroDivergent Relationships Podcast with Kathy Marshack, Ph.D.

The Map of Empathy Territory

Join us today as Dr. Kathy breaks down both the 7 Step Interface Protocol and the Map of Empathy Territory, both detailed in her book, “Empathy is More Than Words.”
She discusses how she created the Map of Empathy Territory to help you navigate a world where empathy is more than words. She also details how the 7 Step Interface Protocol was created to help NeuroTypicals to learn the language of the NeuroDiverse.

Asperger Syndrome: What's in a name?

What IS in a name? People have been using the term ‘Aspergers’ for a long time - even though it’s not the correct term professionally or clinically.
Join us today as Dr. Kathy discusses where the term ‘Aspergers’ originally came from and the dark backstory surrounding it that was recently discovered. If you’d like to learn more about Dr. Kathy and her work, head to https://asd-ntrelationships.com/ 

Empathy is More Than Words

Once you understand empathy, you have a better chance of resolving problems in your NeuroDivergent relationship. 

Join us for today’s episode where Dr. Kathy delves into the characteristics of both the Empathy Triad-Sensitive person and the Empathy Triad-Blind person.

Isolated and Alone: Being Frozen Out of Life Within a NeuroDivergent Relationship

This episode is a special Fathers’ Day message where Dr. Kathy speaks about the similarities she and her dad share having had to navigate a marriage with a spouse on the spectrum.
Join us for today’s episode as Dr. Kathy discusses what it’s like being the NeuroTypical family member who no one understands.

How Chat GPT Sheds Light on NeuroDiversity

Recently, one of Dr. Kathy’s NeuroDivergent clients took to Chat GPT to ask how to navigate interactions in his relationship with a NeuroTypical individual.
While some of the advice and tips it gave are great, many of what it recommended is not possible for a NeuroDiverse individual, such as interactional conversations or paraphrasing.

Chit Chat: Communicating in between the lines

“Chitchat” or what is commonly known as that in-between the lines, empathic language is what NeuroTypicals use to connect with others or initiate a conversation.
However, NeuroDiverse folks face challenges in interpreting nuances in conversation, such as reading between the lines or engaging in casual conversation. For them, words hold literal meaning without any hidden layers or deeper significance.

Love in the Chaos of Autism

Join us today as Dr. Kathy reads a letter to each of her daughters, Bianca and Phoebe, recalling her memories of their upbringing. She speaks about:
- The moments that lead her to the realization that one of her children and her husband were NeuroDiverse.
- How the stress of living with two NeuroDiverse family members affects her NeuroTypical child
- The events leading up to the writing of her books and the development of her courses

Take your life personally - Dedicated to the ones I love

Join us today as Dr. Kathy takes us behind the scenes of her life and shares with us why she takes her life personally and why you should, too.
Listen as she shares an edited excerpt from her book, “Empathy is More Than Words,” recalls her brief visit to a county jail, and how the life of the personal is a source of strength.

What is NeuroDiversity? And Why We Need NeuroDiversity Social Advocacy

Join us today as Dr. Kathy dives into how much of the social justice movement around NeuroDiversity often leaves out the experience of the NeuroTypical loved ones and the challenges that come along with the relationship.She also discusses tools to bridge the gap between the colliding worlds of NeuroDiverse and NeuroTypical, including her 7 step interface protocol.